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Some ‘journalist’ from some website called ‘Vox’, interviewed Jared Taylor of American Rennaissance about der Trumpenreich. I’ve re-posted the exchange with my awesome answers to the questions (were ‘Zach Beauchamp’ so lucky as to have an audience with me).


Zack Beauchamp

Do you feel like the message that you’ve been preaching for a long time was echoed by the campaign, what motivated white voters to turn out for Trump?

Jared Taylor

If I were an egomaniac I’d say, “Yes, my message came through!” But it’s impossible to know what it is that Donald Trump said, and for what reasons, that genuinely motivated white voters.

I have never believed that Donald Trump is a secret race realist. I think that he has just normal reactions, healthy reactions.

He doesn’t like criminals sneaking across the border. He doesn’t like people coming into the United States and going onto welfare. He doesn’t want illegals living here; he thinks they should go home. He wants to take a hard look at Muslims, because Muslims have caused problems in Europe, and somewhat smaller problems here in the United States.

I think all of these are perfectly healthy, fair-minded notions that need not have any grounding in racial consciousness.

ME: Yes. Pro-Whites as well as many more mainstream Republicans have been angry over the fact that the US government will not defend its own border, deport illegals and ensure only US citizens can use social services. This election was, in part, a response to the mass illegal migration that George W. allowed. Those issues were foremost in many American’s minds and Trumps trick was to not ignore them.

White voters turned out for many reasons. The ‘recovery’ largely passed the rust belt by. Obama and the anti-Whites in the Democratic party don’t care about average working class White people.

I’m sure many White people turned out for racial reasons but it’s impossible to know how many and to what extent, since racial consciousness is verboten in mainstream American society. So Whites have become very good at hiding their true opinions.

Zack Beauchamp

Racial consciousness?

Jared Taylor

That concept would be that white Americans, as whites, have collective interests that are legitimate — just as blacks and Asians and every other group have collective interests that are legitimate. One obvious legitimate interest of whites is not to be reduced to a minority.

Now, I don’t think Donald Trump really thinks in those terms. But for those of us who have been trying to slow the dispossession of whites, all of his policies — at least, those pertaining to immigration — align very nicely with the sorts of things we’ve been saying for many years.

I think that is almost — well, probably entirely — an accident. He does not arrive at these views because of any kind of sense that white Americans deserve to be a majority in their own country. I don’t think he thinks in those terms.

But, as I say, he doesn’t like illegals coming into the country; he doesn’t like criminals showing up. He doesn’t like the idea of birthright citizenship. He thinks — and this is revolutionary in today’s thinking — that immigration should serve America and the American people, not the immigrants. You can take that point of view without the slightest racial consciousness.

I don’t think he’s ever looked into what [former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard] David Duke has ever said about anything. He just genuinely has no knowledge or interest in anyone who can be described as a white supremacist.

ME: Pro-Whites use the term ‘racial consciousness’ to mean White people being aware that they have interests and that anti-Whites, in the old 20th century media for example, hate them and want to flood their countries with mass 3rd world immigration and force White people to assimilate with them.

Zack Beauchamp

So if you don’t think that Trump aligns with you, ideologically, what makes you so happy about his win?

Jared Taylor

Because he is expressing an instinctive willingness to violate taboos.

We have gotten to the point now in the United States that if you don’t act as though Mexican immigrants, whether legal or illegal, are some kind of wonderful addition to the American body politic, then you’re a racist! Simply to point out something that is factually irrefutable: that some of them are criminals. [Author note: The best available evidence says Mexican immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than native-born Americans.]

That makes you a bad guy. And Donald Trump is impervious to being called a bad guy.

Also, the fact that the policies onto which he has stumbled, in a kind of innocent, America-first way, are ones that will slow the dispossession of whites. I’m very much in favor of him implementing those policies, for whatever reasons.

ME: Trump aligns with me ideologically in some ways. Stopping further illegal migration and deporting illegal aliens currently residing in the US is not ideological though. It’s just enforcing the law. It is not a coincidence that many of his common sense policies happen to benefit White people and Americans of other races.

I am happy about his win, largely, because of the epic levels of liberal butt-hurt that it has inflicted. Their reactions are so much more valuable than any argument I could make about why SJW’s are a joke.

Aside from that, I am cautiously optimistic that he will stop any further illegal migration and deport many of the illegals residing in the US. Also, I hope that this election (and Brexit) will spur a string of political victories for pro-White parties which oppose mass 3rd world immigration.

Zack Beauchamp

Is that what you want out of Trump? Just for him to implement his stated policies?

Jared Taylor

Well, that’s certainly a good thing — but I don’t think he’s going to do that. I’m not convinced he’s going to build a wall. I’m not convinced he’s going to persuade 13 million illegal immigrants to leave the country. If he actually did those things, I’d very much applaud.

Now, I don’t entirely rule out the idea that he might develop a racial consciousness. He is the only candidate since Patrick Buchanan — and I’m not sure I would even say this about Buchanan — of whom I can imagine saying, in an offhand way, “What’s wrong with whites wanting to remain a majority in the United States?”

I can just barely imagine him saying that. Whereas Hillary Clinton would slit her throat, shoot herself, before she would say such a thing.

ME: For the most part. But what is most important is to use the current political environment to first, make the ‘alt-right’ into the ‘new right’ and then into just the standard political stance of the Republican party. That is to say, an explicitly pro-White platform which advocates for the preservation of the White majority of the US through a end to all non-White immigration.

And second, for the left to completely freak out in response to this entirely reasonable and harmless position, in a way which makes them look stupid and crazy to the bulk of Americans.

Zack Beauchamp

So if this is the first moderately sympathetic administration you’ve had, how do you approach that? What is your strategy for the age of Trump?

Jared Taylor

To me, the form of activism that Trump has made more likely, even inevitable, is candidacies by people who are very much sympathizers with the racial realists — the dissident movement of which I am part — but who are not, necessarily, publicly part of it, who will profit from this new spirit of white people waking up to the fact that they, too, have collective interests.

I think this election is significant because whites, for the first time, have behaved like everybody else. They have voted for a man in whom they see a reflection of their interests as a group. Now, blacks have been doing this ever since they could vote. Hispanics, Asians — everybody does this. Only whites are not allowed to have collective interests.

And given that, I see a kind of awakening — I think we will see this in local elections. School boards, city councils, mayor, maybe Congress in certain districts. That’s what I expect to happen first.

At the same time, the old guard of the Republican Party must realize, at this point, that their message failed. Their idea of a political platform — lower taxes for millionaires, privatization, this kind of thing — it fell flat. Donald Trump ripped their party right out from under them.

And despite Donald Trump’s enormous defects as a candidate, he still won! On this message, that is a kick to the teeth to the traditional Republican platform.

Now, are Republicans so stupid that despite this Trump victory on a brand new platform, they’re going to go back to cobbling together their old message? Surely not. So this will have had a galvanizing effect on Republicans themselves.

Conservative intellectuals had no explanation for the Trump phenomenon. The only way it makes sense is to take into consideration the idea that whites have a nascent sense of legitimate group interests.

ME: The main thing, as I stated above, is to purge the cuckservatives from the GOP and transform it into a party which exists for the explicit benefit of White people.

Aside from that, I would like to see in-fighting, disaffection and disillusionment within the DNC reach epic proportions. In particular, I would like to encourage people on the left to blame White people for Clinton’s loss and turn the volume up on their anti-White hatred. This increased hostility to White Americans will do more to transform the GOP into a pro-White party than anything else. Our enemies on the left might as well make themselves useful – since they’re already idiots.

Zack Beauchamp

So you think this election really does show an emerging white consciousness in America.

Jared Taylor

Yes, it’s inevitable. Trump simply came at the right time to benefit from this, which came to the fore for reasons that have nothing to do with him.

Black Lives Matter is an excellent reason. The continuing influx of nonwhites. The displacement of whites, in one state after another. Every time a nonwhite group demands their share of the Oscar nominations, for example, or their share of Harvard, or racial preferences of some kind — all of those little things send a few more white people our way.

Trayvon Martin. Michael Brown. Those people sent thousands of white people our way. And, of course, the way the media covered all of those phenomena.

ME: Yes. As I said, White people have learned to be good at concealing their true opinions on race. I think many of them aren’t even fully aware that they care about racial issues. There’s a lot of self-deception going on and I hear a lot of right wing ‘conservative’ folks (not alt-right) talking in what sounds like code.

Zack Beauchamp

Here’s what I don’t understand in all of this. You talk a lot about white collective interests — but what about those of people of color? Many such people are worried about what a Trump administration means for them, for precisely the reasons that you’re excited about it. What would you tell them about their “legitimate interests?”

Jared Taylor

I would tell them, I would challenge them, I would defy them to name one single negative thing Donald Trump has said about black people! He’s never said anything insulting about blacks, or to suggest that he doesn’t hold them in high regard.

And as for Hispanics, I would say: If you’re here legally, you’ve got absolutely nothing to worry about.

ME: I have a question for you Zach: The Democratic party talks a lot about the interests of people of colour. But what about White people? Many Whites are worried about what mass 3rd world immigration means for them. What would you tell them about their ‘legitimate interests’?


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The evidence here is significant. It really does look like Hillary had a signal worked out for Holt.

The feeling I got watching this was like a very tiny piece of what I felt when I saw videos of the twin towers coming down, with the debris being spewed out of specific windows at high speed – seemingly from an extremely powerful explosion happening inside the structure. I thought I was pretty cynical already. I literally assume that people in the MSM openly talk about how to get Hillary elected among themselves at work, but I wouldn’t have thought they would go to this extreme. If for no other reason than because it is something that can be noticed and EXPOSED in the Internet age. Oh well, I guess we should be glad they are so stupid and complacent.

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